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The Murder of David Rivas Morales

By Carmen D. on Thursday, June 21st, 2007, 10:50 am Comments

On Tuesday, June 19th, David Rivas Morales was beaten to death in a parking lot by an unknown number of men. You can read the details here. The alleged assailants are black and the victim is Latino. The local authorities and community groups are bending over backwards and twisting sideways to reinforce the idea that race had nothing to do with this assault. Unfortunately, I think this murder has much to do with race, anger and bigotry. It is time for black and Latino people to have candid dialogue about the unaddressed anger and fear between us so we can move through it. As people of color, as Americans and people aspiring to be Americans, our challenge is to forge relationships and coalitions based on mutual respect and shared understanding.

The silence of so called “black leaders” on immigration issues rolls on like a riptide. Spotlight seekers like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are notably quiet when the questions swirl around immigration policy. I don’t know why that is. But, when I see everybody ready to jump on the “Jail Paris” and “Fire Imus” bandwagon, while remaining silent on one of the most pressing issues of our time, and particularly pressing on those at the bottom of the economic ladder, I know that something is wrong, something is dishonest. For them, this one’s just too hot to handle.

From where I sit, neither the African American community nor the Latino community is willing to roll up their sleeves and open their hearts enough to have the much needed dialogue about our differences and concerns. Many of the Latino writers I read, point to the lousy working conditions of the jobs that illegal immigrants take on. But, what they fail to acknowledge is that those same conditions exist precisely because employers are not forced to innovate in order to obtain a suitable workforce. Yes, illegals work in conditions Americans would not tolerate. But, if these manufacturers/processors hired Americans, they would be forced to improve work conditions to attract the workers they needed. That’s how innovation in the workplace comes about; market forces. So, when poor and unskilled black people look around and see Mexican nationals doing jobs they could and would do for a fair wage, in decent working conditions, they get angry and see how they are being undermined.

From the African American community, I see an overly simplistic assessment of the problem. For example, I have visited Home Depot stores all across America. I have yet to see an integrated group of men standing at the parking lot entrance, waiting for a chance to work for a day or for a few hours; only Latino. Where are the civic leaders with the vans rounding up young, unemployed, black men and taking them out to the Home Depot stores to work? Still more importantly, at this point, it is utterly unreasonable for poor, unskilled, African Americans to be fighting any other poor, unskilled group of people for a slice of the American pie.

I don’t have any answers, but I am here and ready to get into the conversation. Will you join me?

  • HG
    Hello there it's extremely sad what happened to David Rivas Morales. But in my opinion I strongly believe that Carmen D. or any other black person would not have ran the same fate. I am a Latino women and in my 32 years of life I have experienced more racism from blacks then from whites. My best friend is black and we have been friends for years. I love her like a sister and we have spoken on this issue. And we have shared our stories of racism which we have experienced. And I was shock to hear of her encounters with Latinos. Just as she was shocked to hear of my encounters with blacks. And yes I agree with someone who posted that alot of people are hush hush about this situation. They don't want to bring to light the racism that is happening in todays society between two minority groups. Some people believe that if it is brought out that it will cause alot of chaos. And who knows maybe it will maybe it won't. But do deny that it is not an issue it is wrong.
  • Hi T. Glad to see you. So sorry, truly, to hear that you are dealing with Cancer right now. It is a disease that hits the whole family when it comes upon us. I quit ABC a few years ago...I was simply burned out and it was time to do my own thing so to speak. I am thankful that I had the experience but I never ever miss it. I have worked since I was 15 and I needed to step out of the corporate arena. Glad you stopped by. Oh, and regarding male to female, I have no opinion. Seriously. It is impossible to even venture a guess based on our limited contact. I believe you have a seeking spirit. That's all I can say at this point. :) I am all for talking about "forbidden" topics.
  • T Halen
    Why are you "former"? Does that rankle you?

    I hope you do well. It's silly to think that racial issues can be resolved equitably and amicably. Except it's not so silly when I read things by you. Ha!

    You and I both know you are an extraordinary type of creature. A chimera, in your way. White liberal women won't let you in.

    Please understand I mean no disrespect in delay in responding. (I know way too many things about parental cancer now - more than some doctors.)

    Question: how do you think I would react to a black female? Male to female? Your knee-jerk reaction would not be representative, to be sure. But still...

    Maybe I'm just playing off a forbidden topic.
  • T, you made an excellent point here:

    "So there’s another great irony: whites thought of as non-liberals have effectively anointed Sharpton as the spokesman for black people."

    It's ridiculous, isn't it?

    But as far as throwing the term 'racist' around, as a former network news producer I am SURE that the issues of race are almost NEVER addressed directly in either direction. Race is talked about and talked around. And I challenge you to give me one or two SPECIFIC examples where a network news outlet called a white person racist. Just one or two. (Paula Zahn is cable.)

    Hannity has called Sharpton a racist directly. Go to hannityandcolmes site and check out the transcripts.
    O'Reilly called Obama's pastor a racist directly. I am not saying he was wrong or right but he said it. Check the transcripts.
    I agree with your point about Blacks criticizing Jews.
  • T Halen
    "1. I watch O’reilly and Hannity and Colmes throughout the week. At least once a week a black person is called a racist. Usually Sharpton, but others, too."

    I'm not a fan of O'Reilly's, because he is not a conservative. (Neither is Bush, who is merely a capitalist.) O'Reilly also kisses Sharpton's butt, in the quest to publicly prove, "I'm not a racist". Tucker does the same, as does Glenn Beck. If you are a public figure who will criticize blacks, you then also have to publicly buddy up to get some protection from racism charges. (Just as Isaiah Washington did regarding gays. Btw, I think he got a raw deal.)

    Why did they choose Sharpton? Because he has moved a little to the center to position himself for the future. All politics are the same: you appeal to a radical group to stand out and get into the game, then move toward the center to acquire more mass appeal.

    So there's another great irony: whites thought of as non-liberals have effectively anointed Sharpton as the spokesman for black people.

    Yes, Hannity does bravely speak out the most - but I doubt he ever explicitly says "Sharpton is a racist". He will use much softer words. He knows he is on thin ice and that he has to tread very softly. Many white careers have been ruined over being called a racist, though thankfully those double standard days are ending - albeit slowly. (History has shown that blacks get in trouble only when criticizing Jews. I.e., Griff from Public Enemy, Khallid Muhammad from NOI and even Farrakhan, not to mention Jesse and 'Hymietown'.)

    But your own words prove my point: I said that no one is allowed to criticize blacks. You point up that a very very small minority of broadcasters do, and only very, very recently. No one on ABC CBS NBC CNN does. (Paula Zahn does a kind of dog and pony show, where the end result of the stacked deck is usually that whites are racists and blacks are innocent victims. But at least she has John McWhorter on sometimes.)

    Hollywood is predictably much worse, where rich white and Jewish liberals dictate almost every single thing. Who else would come up with the ludicrous fiction of the multiracial street gang?

    So when I said that *nobody* is allowed to criticize blacks, that was deliberate exagerration, but not far off the true mark anyway. And the double-standard always does apply.

    If Cosby was white, he naturally would have been destroyed, not merely assailed. But you can publicly criticize whites and Christians (especially Catholics) all day along and get very little heat in return.

    The twisted nature of reverse-discrimination is that Muslims come here and kill 3,000 Americans, then we are all bullied into saying that Islam is the "religion of peace". Nearly the only one who can safely criticize Muslims is comedian Carlos Mencia - because he's NOT WHITE and he's also established the fiction that he criticizes everybody equally.

    (Sasha Cohen doesn't apply because so many people never really understood it anyway.)
  • Ah yes, but you agree with almost half of what I write. It's a start I'll take.:)
  • T Halen
    To Carmen:

    thank you, ma'am.

    (using that word is my subtle way of saying that I think you deserve respect and admiration - even though I disagree with at least half of what you write)

    ...and in a perfect world, I'd have at least two Nielsen ratings boxes and you could take them :)
  • Hi T. (I hope we are on a first initial basis now.) I have not written about interracial relationships. Not sure why, as a matter of fact, my wonderful hubby is white. But here is a site you might find interesting:

    http://bfinterracialmarriage.blogspot.com/

    black female interracial marriage: E-Zine on black women and interracial marriage options

    Also, I will count on you to have a Nielsen ratings box when the time comes! Thank you for your compliment.
  • T Halen
    "It reminds me of when Ananda Lewis(?) had a talk show. She was honest, at least."

    I mean that Ananda was at least honest, if not overly brainy.

    Meanwhile, if Carmen (brains and honesty) had a show, I'd watch it. That show would be one of a kind. Hey, I would seriously encourage you to record some of your writings and place them online as audio files. It could snowball.
  • T Halen
    Thanks, Carmen. I like your style. It reminds me of when Ananda Lewis(?) had a talk show. She was honest, at least.

    Now if you care to, kindly point me to any of your articles on the single most forbidden topic of all: why do I see white girls with black guys all over the place, but ever so rarely the reverse? Talk about "too hot to handle".
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