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Blackface IS bad. But is it ever funny?

By Carmen D. on Friday, March 7th, 2008, 7:56 am Comments

On August 15th, Robert Downey Jr., Jack Black and Ben Stiller are set to star in Stiller’s latest comedy ‘Tropic Thunder’.

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According to reports, Downey Jr. plays a white actor who takes a role originally written for a black actor and dyes his skin to play the role as a black man. His character does all this in hopes of winning an Oscar. Frankly, I like Ben Stiller’s comedy so reading about ‘Tropic Thunder’ I am laughing out loud and queasy at the same time.

Here are two of my favorite comments from various threads about ‘Tropic Thunder’

Robbo says: “…It would certainly be outrageous if Nicole Kidman “blacked up” to play the life-story of Rosa Parks. Funny? Hell yes – but unintentionally so.”

James says: “…This is not Blackface. Blackface is a makeup style intended to demean us Black folks. With the over sized white lips and such. This is a white man in make up making him look black. There is nothing wrong here, at least judging by the still photo.

I’m not a fan of Ben Stiller, so I’m sure there is content that would offend me if I actually see this movie. As far as Downey’s role
being funny, the original queation, has a lot to do with how the character is played. If it’s played like Jimmy Walker in fatigues then I wouldn’t find it funny at all.”

Can blackface ever be funny? Why or why not? Please speak on this, I would LOVE to hear your thoughts.

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  • abw
    Heck no.This is NOT good because the way blackface was once used. I believe he is funny, and the makeup today-in comparison to the past-is much better. But this is not a trend that should catch on(or people should take to lightly)since people may think it is okay to revert to the old style of blackface and this trend may be an excuse not to hire blacks since white-face performers in blackface will be used as standins.It also don't helped that blackface has been often used for the purposes of ridicule-period! Of course, we can continue to make our own movies and some of them need to get better BUT STILL; and I too had some issues with whiteface.
  • Pablo Zulu
    As a 61 year old blackpuertorican vietnam vet, racially conscious since the age of thirteen,Im worried sick about the state of Black America. The open use of the "n"word.Black women looking like white(wannabe black)women that exposed themselves to sunlight to the point that, when I see Queen Latifah lately I think that if she was puertorican, she might as well be Queen La Tiza(Reina Chalk).

    For the past 5 years Ihave been working on a documentary titled "Deep-low(Bajo y Profundo)". this work is based on Sylvia del Villard's a racial/cultural activist black woman who died denouncing what she considered an inmoral act:"An actor/actress painting him/herself black.

    My big problem is that downhere in Puerto Rico we, shall I say some of us thought that it was illegal to paint oneself black in the USA. Spike Lee's Bamboozled made me think about the issue. Close to bringing my subtitled documentary to NYC this summer Im trying to make sense behind Mr.Downey"s action.

    Hoping to see some of the people concerned with this matter at my documentary showing as a preview I must say that in Puerto Rico the most prominent black face is according to many..."Diplo"a black face character that became very popular in the 1950's.
  • M. Gonzalez
    Hola Pablo: Just held a tribute to Sylvia del Villard this past Sunday in Brroklyn. Would like to get intouch with you, contact me at www.los_sures@yahoo.com.
    hablamos pronto
  • Hey Andre. That looks like the premise here. RDjr. plays a white actor playing a black actor. It just may be convoluted enough to be smart. Or, maybe not. :)
  • I'm not a fan of any skits, movies, or the like where people carry out a role in blackface, whiteface, or whatever. I suspect that I have the most opposition to whites carrying out performance in blackface. But in the interest of keeping things on an even keel, I try to be equally critical of blacks playing the role of white people (i.e. "White Chicks").

    For me, the one exception to this rule is "Soul Man" with C. Thomas Howell. But the major difference is that Howell is not playing the role of a black person; he's playing the role of a white person who turns himself black for a specific purpose. But at the end of the day, his role was still white.
  • Hey Tyler. I think your point about dimension will be one of the key measures of effectiveness for 'Tropic Thunder. Even if 'Tropic Thunder' is parody, it had better be smart and move away from hackneyed jokes about what white people think it means to be black. There is no better way to foster examination of America's racial attitudes than to create a movie where we can laugh and nod at the truths we see on screen. That's why 'Blazing Saddles' is one of my all time favorite movies. (The Wagon Train scene is one of the funniest ever!)
  • Just read the hyperlink...looks like it is a satire. That could be interesting...I'll reserve anymore judgment for when the film is released.
  • I think what is disturbing about this is that it's a comedy. Now if it were a drama, that could be interesting. Or even a satire that makes a point about how superficial changes to an actor in a part can win them awards even if the acting is passable. That could be interesting. There is something to be said there. But a Ben Stiller comedy worries me.

    Will the humor derive from a white man playing stereotypically black or black in a more three-dimensional way? For instance, the Adam Sandler/Kevin James movie is offensive because the kind of "gay" they were playing was stereotypical. There was nothing remotely intersting or realistic about those representations.

    Will the same happen here? If so, it doesn't matter if the makeup is more realistic, it is still blackface because blackness is represented one-dimensionally and for laughs.

    One wonders if the black character that Downey's character is playing is the kind of idiot that most token black characters are in mainstream films. Or is he playing a character that is deracinated and a black actor plays it solely to integrate the film. These are the kinds of questions that one should consider when thinking about this film. Essentially, what do they mean by "black"?

    Let's face it, in Hollywood there are two kinds of black. One is the stereotype (be it a buffoon or a criminal) or the deracinated dropped-into-a-"white"-role characters where race as it truly functions is completely ignored (think Will Smith and Denzel Washington for most of their careers). Either one of these things is offensive even if you didn't add a white man playing either of these blacknesses on top of it.

    I happen to loathe Ben Stiller's comedy. I think he's mean-spirited. But I adore Robert Downey Jr. and I'm sure he'll do the best job he can. But if the script is bad and the script is offensive, there is only so much he can do.
  • Hey n-2-me-i-c. You wrote: "They’ll be too busy trying to keep the Democratic Party from self-destructing."

    Let's just call that 'Mission Impossible.' ;)
  • Hi Mike. Welcome to the conversation. I expect to like the movie, too. I agree with your comment. From everything I've read it looks like a smart choice Stiller and Downey made not a smarmy one. We'll see.
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