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Black Conservatives Assemble to Affirm Glenn Beck – First Part

By Carmen D. on Monday, November 16th, 2009, 9:37 am Comments

A Black conservative town hall filled the studio audience of Glenn Beck’s Friday the 13th show. I wouldn’t characterize it as a horror story, far from it. Solid points about the need to instill more black urban kids with a love for education and learning were made. But I will say right off that it was frightening to observe the monstrous delusions of many who spoke during the show. And what had me gasping in cynical laughter, was that every time a ‘black conservative’ stood up and said anything that other ‘black conservatives’ didn’t like, the speaker was subjected to the same kind of silencing and diminishing behavior that ‘black conservatives’ constantly wail about being subjected to by liberals and progressives of all colors. Rich, isn’t it?

When Beck asked a question about what I call the “gimme, gimme mentality” of some in the inner city, one woman stood up and equated it to the Wall Street bailouts. She was shouted down and Beck completely ignored the connection by saying something like, “It’s not only a black problem. It’s an inner city problem.” See for yourself:

What gets my blood boiling most about some black conservatives is the self-hating, ignorant, racist idea that black people who disagree with them are somehow under the “white liberal man’s spell” or ascribe to some kinds of “plantation policies.” If you have a problem with black folks who disagree with you, turn to those black people and seek to engage in dialogue with them. Lenny McAllister is a friend of mine. We disagree on plenty, but we share engaged respectful exchanges whenever we find the time to connect.

Why is it that so many black conservatives, who get called names by black people, go run to white people to complain about it? I’ve been called everything from a “bootlicker” to a “n*gg*r c*nt” since I’ve been blogging. Who the hell cares? Haven’t these “up from slavery” types figured out yet that it’s not what “they” call you, it’s what you answer to?

And one last point. For people who like to claim some kind of racial “neutrality” and continue to tell black people that “race doesn’t matter” I am sure seeing a lot of conservative blog posts praising “African Americans” (there’s that term again) “for having the courage to speak their minds.”

Well, thank you white conservatives. I didn’t know black folks, of any ideology, needed permission or affirmation from you to do what they do in their own lives everyday.

  • sejoseph
    The dynamic of interrace conversation is crippled by the fact that many whites cannot deal with the historical and current advantages that they enjoy are due largely to skin color. African Americans get tired of limiting the conversation to reassurances that whites are correct in their narrow knowledge of black history, culture and experiences. If whites could actually listen to our anger and pain and that understand that our views are not based on self pity or victimization. Blacks who agree with the likes of Glen Beck ascribe to the belief that African Americans are fully responsible for our status in America. They support idea that black are innately dysfunctional, which makes them unfit for participation in the American enterprise. Beck's commentary is simply a reformulation of the same ideology that supported slavery, colonization, jim crow and apartheid. If these Beck loving blacks were really interested in racial uplift, they should be in our schools, churches and community centers and helping black youth instead of worshiping at the feet of a racial demagogue like Glen Beck.
  • Mike
    sejoseph......you make some really good points. I agree that there is a lack of knowledge and with many, motivation for whites to truly try and understand black history, your culture and experiences. And from what I have heard from Beck, he does appear to hold the views you mention. Making it worse, he's so arrogant and sniping in his comments about anything really. Its unfortunate that people like him get a pulpit. But I digress......

    In some ways, it seems almost impossible for Whites to ever step into your shoes to get a real understanding of the culture. But not all misunderstandings are due to ignorance. I think that the biggest gap right now that needs to be closed is the "hidden" racism that exists in America. Even though its popular belief that African Americans have all the same opportunities afforded to them that we have and that many just refuse to take advantage......that is just not the case. There are too many people in influential positions that still can't see past color or stereotypes, making the playing field uneven for African Americans The scales are still too skewed to call it a fair shake.

    I also agree that the battle can best be fought in schools, churches and community centers. It may be difficult to ever completely change the hearts and minds of the current generation but education could help to level the scales for future generations. Maybe not without some change to the current education system.

    I know we have a long way to go but Obama being elected was at least a sign that we're moving in the right direction. Its something to build on.
  • Mike Stafford
    Well there's that tone.......the one I hear so often from Blacks when white people say things regarding race. Whether the white conservative comments were sincere or not, I'm not sure they'd ever be taken any other way. Racial tensions have gotten to a point where Whites can't even compliment the black movement. We gotta get away from this mentality.

    If we are all equal, why do we have to insert the race card as often as we do. Seems to me a lot of these social problems attributed to Blacks are often more to do with lack of education and income rather than race. If you take any group of people today in America and take away good education and sustainable employment.......the same results form regardless of color. Now if the same opportunities aren't being afforded to everyone because of race, then we have to recognize and address those.......but we shouldn't make race a bigger factor than it is in some of these cases.

    I find a lot of times that racial inequality is a lot like gender inequality. Women and Men just want to be treated equal but by endlessly pointing out gender......its hard to get to the solution. It can be over emphasized. There needs to be a happy medium......discussion on race should not be suppressed but it needs to be discussed to the level that it is a factor. No more.....no less. Thats the tough part to gauge.



  • sheajustice
    The "tone" is an amusing way for white folks to control the discussion and put black people on the defensive. Am I supposed to say it in a way to make them comfortable in their bigotry ? Whites can't even compliment the "black movement ? " Talk about a master/slave mentality ! Mike Stafford likes to try to make white conservatives into victims because he knows they are the true racists and he can't deal with the truth. His rantings would be amusing if they weren't so pathetic.
  • mikestafford
    Look I understand that you've commented on this blog before and may not be exactly tickled with Glenn Beck or any of those conservatives for that matter. Thats fine. I wasn't actually commenting on your comments.....but the article itself. I certainly never labeled anything as "pathetic" or accused anyone of bigotry. I don't know you and I don't know them. I was merely commenting on the statement that basically says thanks for the complement to us for standing up for ourselves but go screw yourself! I'm paraphrasing of course but that was the jist of it.

    I ask you Sheajustice.....if I see a Black person or Black group standing up for racial equality and I happen to admire them for it.....how should I respond? Should I comment that I admire their resolve? Should I pretend it didn't happen? Should I only talk to my white friends and not associate with Blacks because I'm white? I'm genuinely confused because of responses like the one in the article. I don't think I should be expected to just shut up and act like it didn't happen but if not then what is the appropriate way to say something positive about it?

    In the future if you disagree with something in my response......just say what parts you disagree with and why......don't just accuse me of master/slave mentalities or label me as ranting. It wasn't a rant at all. I expressed my opinion on what I read.....without belittling anyone. I sort of thought that was the point of this website.

    Have a good night
  • sheajustice
    I'm jiust not into,being condescended to by white conservatives like yourself. " Not tickled with Glenn Beck ?"
    You want to know what to do ? Fight the institutional racist policies that make up America. But don't try to make me beg for your validation. If you need a black stranger online to give you answers for how to deal with black people then you are a lot more ignorant and misguided than I thought. And for future reference , try not to tell me what I can and can't say in a debate or discussion. Slavery's over.



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  • Mike Stafford
    Slavery is over......but not for you apparently. You're a slave to hatred and self-pity. I hope you break free from it someday.
  • sheajustice
    And there you have it Ladies and Gentlemen ! Mike Stafford's Racist comeback101. When your bigotry is out in the open and you can't hide it, accuse the black guy of self pity and hate. He left out Louis Farrakhan , Jeremiah Wright etc. In his desperate attempt to rationalize conservative racist ideology, and trash like Glenn Beck he tries to force me to comply with his terms of debate and discussion. He needs me to tell him how he should react to black people in certain situations, and when that fails he chooses to define me as a slave. My "tone" is the kind blacks and most minorities probably take when white arrogance and your need to control, enter the discussion. Hatred and self pity are the calling cards of black conservatives that shuffle to people like Beck and yourself.
  • Mike Stafford
    Well its clear that no matter what I say it will be spun in a negative way. Thats unfortunate. You've said some things about me that were not very nice which is what led to my assumption about you. I'm sure some things we've both said to each other were taken out of context and it just escalates from there. If we were in the same room......things may have turned out different.

    For the record though I will state some actual facts about me and you can decide whether to believe them or not or even.....care :-). I'm not a "White conservative", but yes I am White. I'm neither Republican nor Democrat. I'm a Canadian with some liberal and some conservative views. (door opening for attacks on my country?) I don't listen to Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh or any political radio liberal or conservative loud mouth. I'm a music lover.........all types from A to Z. I do however work here in the US.....Dallas, TX to be more specific.

    I don't have the answers.......I'm just a Dude with an opinion. There's at least one thing we have in common. Life's too short to lob bombs at each other on some blog site. We certainly won't be righting any wrongs with exchanges like this.

    At the great risk of sounding "condescending".......Take care, Shea

  • sheajustice
    Thanks for the kind words Mike Stafford. For future reference you need to respond to black people as individuals and not as entities that you can put labels on or try to force into explaining themselves to you. When you talk about "tone" then all I see is another racist Fox New lover trying to put me in the same racial categories. ( Angry, black , self hatred, slave) I don't care about where you're from or your background. Good luck getting over your racial issues. Maybe things would be different when you do.
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